[quote=@SleepingSilence] [@Fabricant451] Oscars aren't exactly something I hold in high-esteem. Suicide Squad won an Oscar...[/quote] Yes it did. For makeup. Which is far lower on the prestige totem pole than [i]writing[/i]. [quote]Because someone that says they don't care for it, immediately hammer on a racial point, or points out that "it's about someone." Kind of reveals the film's hand/purpose don't it? ;D[/quote] Yes, because film analysis boils down to "If a movie has themes I don't agree with it's a hamfisted movie." [quote]But, no not really. If we avoid the semantics, putting the word "hamfisted" on the side, it's because I've seen enough about it without needing to see it. Or do I have to watch the Amazing Spiderman 2 myself, because you never know until ya see it? Or can one smell "a message" being the sole "strength/crux" of your movie from a mile away and when it's confirmed with outside media, be smart enough to avoid it.[/quote] I'm not sure what Amazing Spider-Man 2 has to do with anything, but assuming you're trying to make the connection between quality and reception then why even watch movies at all if you solely see something based on an arbitrary number value attached to a review? You might like Amazing Spider-Man 2. You can't realistically judge the quality of a product without seeing or using it yourself. You can make an informed decision on if you want to see something or purchase something based on footage, but it's disingenuous to say a movie does something badly if you haven't seen it and have no actual point of reference other than second or third hand anecdotes. Get Out is not a movie that has one 'sole strength' in its themes. Hell, the fact that different people come away with different interpretations of the ideas and themes presented should be counted as a strength. But Get Out has a lot going for it apart from the racial commentary. [quote]Again, even if I agreed with whatever message it tried beating me [i]subtly[/i] over the head.[/quote] So you don't agree that systemic racism is a thing and that people that champion for colored people are often just as racist as the more overt racists? [quote]Like just read some of the IMDB reviews...[/quote] A bastion of quality and thought there. [quote]Ignoring that most IMDB reviews aren't written well. You're allowed to love that *everything is laced with social commentary*. Even if I agreed with the point of it, and assuming what I've read about it, I would. But again, at best, it's preaching to the choir.[/quote] How do you know the point of it if you haven't seen it? You just blindly agree with IMDB people and their interpretations? [quote]I don't really care for comedy in my horror. Even if I like a few Key & Peele skits, I don't really want it in a horror movie. (Same reason I didn't like all the disjointed comedy moments shoved into Halloween, for that matter.) It didn't look interesting from it's trailers, and nothing I read about it changed my mind...[/quote] Do you not like comedy in action movies? In thrillers? In drama? Comedy has been a part of horror since damn near the start of the horror boom of the late 70s. Comedy is a tool in any film or medium and serves as a way in horror movies to diffuse tension or lull the audience into security before pulling the rug out. Not speaking about you specifically here but I hate it when people assume comedy somehow ruins the tone of a movie, comedy is an emotion - movies prey on negative and positive emotions. There are moments of levity in most movies, even grim ones, because otherwise you have an overbearingly bleak experience. [quote][i]*If a message or theme is remotely subtle, every single positive IMDB score will likely -not- mention exactly what it was about and what it stood for. With no differences in interpretation, because it was never meant to be taken any other way by the audience*[/i] [/quote] Stop using IMDB as your point of reference, then. If the common denominator person just comes away from that movie going "IT'S ABOUT RACISM, I GET IT!" then they didn't actually understand the greater point being made or the symbolism or themes. Because it's a satire and a subtle one at that.