[quote=@CaptainSully] [@King Cosmos] I just see it as a bit of a Kaioken duplicate. [/quote] Agreed. I was trying to make it less of a basic power-up and more like a last ditch effort, trading defense for offense to try and finish the fight quickly. I'm not really happy with how it turned out so I'll be replacing it in the final CS with more of a big finishing move. [quote=@CaptainSully] So I’m thinking ultimates will be the total last resort moves or moves that take a long time to power up e.g Spirit Bomb, Vegeta suicide blast etc. Then what I was thinking of adding was trademark moves. So these are more powerful than the characters basic moves and will be able to be scaled up a bit when charged so that they can also be used as finishers. So the obvious example is Kamehameha. [/quote] This is closer to what I was imagining ultimate attacks would be. As far as trademark moves go, what were you thinking of doing? 4 basic techniques, 1/2 trademarks and 1 ultimate? That sounds fine to me.