[quote=@King Cosmos] Agreed. I was trying to make it less of a basic power-up and more like a last ditch effort, trading defense for offense to try and finish the fight quickly. I'm not really happy with how it turned out so I'll be replacing it in the final CS with more of a big finishing move. This is closer to what I was imagining ultimate attacks would be. As far as trademark moves go, what were you thinking of doing? 4 basic techniques, 1/2 trademarks and 1 ultimate? That sounds fine to me. [/quote] I saw ultimates more as extremely powerful moves with with potential drawbacks that could be replaced like how kaoi ken went from a move that Goku used to try to quickly finish the fight with Vegeta, to something he needed to keep up with Frieza and a much higher level of it to something that got discardedwhen he reached super saiyan