[quote=@Fabricant451] No it didn't. It also [i]barely[/i] broke even and was an incredibly polarizing movie (for some reason, considering it was trash). The only award of any actual note or merit it was even considered for was the Golden Raspberries. [/quote] I meant nominations. And barely breaking even is still breaking even. You can make disturbing movies in the west with A-listers attatched which was what you were arguing before the goalpost shift. [quote=@Fabricant451] Saya no Uta isn't trying to make some broader point like Under the Skin does - where the sexual aspect is purposely downplayed - it's literally a game about a childish Shoggoth cannibal and the irredeemable fuck that enables her. [/quote] The Guro-verse is an allegory for insanity, isolation and depression. He sees the world in the way that no one else does after an accident he didn't ask for. Maybe you forget but he was living like this for [b]3 months[/b] before meeting Saya. Everyone keeps portraying fumonori like some sociopathic dick. He was a normal person until he had to endure an existance where everything looks gruesome, tastes gruesome, sounds terrifying and smells and feels like a murder scene. I challenge anyone to go 3 fucking days living like that without losing empathy for the world let alone 3 goddamn months. There are plenty of points to made about the very interesting dyanmic he has with Saya. He is sacaraficing his real humanity in so he can experience a level of false humanity because he is at a suicidal point of despair. She is the only thing that appears anything like the normality he had before the accident, and it makes perfect sense he will do anything to hang on to that. Saya is also fascinating. She is a being with feelings and a self image just like any human. She just happens to eat living flesh. Not too different than a well meaning mountain lion as a pet. Her only contact with people is the psycho 'father' that brought her into this world and the desperately depressed fuminori. Her moral compass wasn't exactly in the most healthy place to begin with. She makes some attempt to refrain from eating human at first and just feeds on animals. She is even initially reluctant to let Fumi eat the first person she kills before he tells her it makes him happy. They enable each other but are both mostly ignorant at this point of the morals of their actions. They only both cross the line into becoming genocidal fuckers when Saya is assualted by the neighbour because of her selfish idea to find another person to call her pretty. Reckless yes, but with understandable motivations. After this point the game is pretty clear in its shift in protaganists. Its then a race to stop the evil plot by fuminori and saya by Koji and the Doctor and the narrative plays them with appropriate level of sympathy. [quote=@Fabricant451] He is rewarded by his deeds and for the entire climax of the story - and thus a film adaptation - it would have to literally sell the relationship in a way that a film would likely not accomplish nearly as well as it should. And this is without going into the logistics of making the meat world play well on screen. [/quote] He gets maybe 4 half decent meals and a threesome before the love of his life dissipates into the ether. It's bittersweet at best and its only one of the endings. Gen doesn't frame any of them as the 'true' ending they are just as viable as each other. If we are going by length then the 'Koji Wins' would be the true ending which in turn is a 'he who fights monsters' theme to wrap the story up. There is also the mental asylum ending, which probably could work really well for a film adaptation. [quote=@Fabricant451] There is no scenario in which a poorly written character like whatshername who exists in the plot solely to become fuckslave is done well - especially not in the current climate around Hollywood. Even if you take away the fuckslave part and make her mindless maid on a collar or whatever, that's not a character or role that will go over well and is better stripped from the script altogether [/quote] I mean maybe, but you could even take the fucking out and just have her as a 'captive' who is just there to be a call back to Fumi's previous life and to demonstrate Saya's growing power of genetic manipulation. If anyone plays these games thinking the sex is important to the story they are playing it wrong. [quote=@Fabricant451] I barely consider the friends to be characters. They're basically the first victims in a slasher movie. The supporting cast as a whole was pretty under-developed since that's not what people came for. Hollywood is far, far, far from perfect or ideal when it comes to great roles for actresses, but any adaptation of this work would need massive re-writes or else they just cast unknowns on the cheap but then you lose out on people who see movies based on name recognition. [/quote] I mean yeah....its a horror story so there are going to be victims. This is no different then any other half decent horror flick where 80% of the main cast get killed off just to show the brutality of the killer and only a couple or one of the survivors becomes the hero. I'm not saying that this aspect has to be a ground breaking deconstruction of the genre. The story is still about a flesh eating monster. Koji isnt a great character but he makes sense as the former friend who is seeing someone he's known all his life change. The Doctor IS an interesting character, living a double life as a even mannered psychiatrist when shes really a half crazed obsessed conspiracy theorist with a violent mission. [quote=@Fabricant451] Yeah and then people are laughing in the theater as characters talk about 'sexual energy' as if they're watching a shitty hentai. Oh wait. [/quote] Ah yes, something as fantastical as sexual energy would suspend the disbelief of the relatable and realistic act of putting your dick into a Cthulhu. [quote=@Fabricant451] It's not as simple as you're trying to make it seem. It would require major rewrites for market appeal but the appeal is already super low. It would work better as an independent film where they can get away with more but then they'd have to have good fucking luck at getting it screened in major theaters. Just because something works in one medium doesn't mean it'll make the transition to another smoothly. [/quote] You didnt just move the goal post you created an entirely different one and moving them around at the same time. I never said the movie was going to spawn the next marvel universe franchise, I said it could be made. It would have a niche audience but the crossover from Visual Novel Weebs, Lovecraft fanatics, and Neckbeards who like psychogical horror with fucking might be enough to justify a limited release. I also don't remember saying that it should get a major release I said the film could be made. I also never said that some aspects wouldn't have to be re-written I'm saying the film could retain enough of the important themes without them. They managed to adapt The Road without keeping the fetus barbecue scene in the novel. They also managed to adapt IT [b]twice[/b] without the sewer orgy. Saya adaptation is really straightforward, if I had any idea about screenwriting I could do it myself. [quote=@Fabricant451] In other news, Aquaman was a garbage movie. [/quote] I also heard that water is wet.