[quote=@Dynamo Frokane] I meant nominations. And barely breaking even is still breaking even. You can make disturbing movies in the west with A-listers attatched which was what you were arguing before the goalpost shift.[/quote] You didn't mean nominations. You literally said it got awards, not nominations. Those are two completely different things. My argument isn't 'you can't make disturbing movies with A-listers', my argument is 'it won't be financially viable and in this specific case the source material is not good film material unless you literally rewrite it and then it's not even the same thing'. [quote]The Guro-verse is an allegory for insanity, isolation and depression. He sees the world in the way that no one else does after an accident he didn't ask for. Maybe you forget but he was living like this for [b]3 months[/b] before meeting Saya. Everyone keeps portraying fumonori like some sociopathic dick. He was a normal person until he had to endure an existance where everything looks gruesome, tastes gruesome, sounds terrifying and smells and feels like a murder scene. I challenge anyone to go 3 fucking days living like that without losing empathy for the world let alone 3 goddamn months.[/quote] Cool motive, still murder. [quote]There are plenty of points to made about the very interesting dyanmic he has with Saya. He is sacaraficing his real humanity in so he can experience a level of false humanity because he is at a suicidal point of despair. She is the only thing that appears anything like the normality he had before the accident, and it makes perfect sense he will do anything to hang on to that.[/quote] Dress it up all you like, he's still fucking a formless pile of sludge that looks and acts like a little girl. [QUote]Gen doesn't frame any of them as the 'true' ending they are just as viable as each other. If we are going by length then the 'Koji Wins' would be the true ending which in turn is a 'he who fights monsters' theme to wrap the story up.[/quote] Somehow I think the ending with the happiest outcome for the protagonists complete with the theme and image song playing over credits counts as the true ending. [quote]There is also the mental asylum ending, which probably could work really well for a film adaptation.[/quote] The best possible outcome for a film adaptation is not having the crazy Shoggoth fucker as the protagonist. [quote]I mean maybe, but you could even take the fucking out and just have her as a 'captive' who is just there to be a call back to Fumi's previous life and to demonstrate Saya's growing power of genetic manipulation. If anyone plays these games thinking the sex is important to the story they are playing it wrong.[/quote] Saya no Uta is like the one eroge where the sex [i]is[/i] important to the story though. [quote]Koji isnt a great character but he makes sense as the former friend who is seeing someone he's known all his life change. The Doctor IS an interesting character, living a double life as a even mannered psychiatrist when shes really a half crazed obsessed conspiracy theorist with a violent mission.[/quote] The only characters that are given remotely any spotlight and attention are crazy guy and his Shoggoth waifu for obvious reasons. The Doctor only gets to field the dual role because the story has like five fucking characters and none of them are allowed to develop beyond the initial surface which is why it's jarring. [quote]Ah yes, something as fantastical as sexual energy would suspend the disbelief of the relatable and realistic act of putting your dick into a Cthulhu.[/quote] She's not a Cthulhu. [quote]You didnt just move the goal post you created an entirely different one and moving them around at the same time.[/quote] You would know, skipper. [quote]I never said the movie was going to spawn the next marvel universe franchise, I said it could be made.[/quote] Cool goalposts, sport. [quote]It would have a niche audience but the crossover from Visual Novel Weebs, Lovecraft fanatics, and Neckbeards who like psychogical horror with fucking might be enough to justify a limited release.[/quote] Yeah because Ghost in the Shell set the world on fire. This hypothetical audience you're talking about is incredibly small even by casual estimates and horror movies already struggle to do well unless it has super positive word of mouth like IT or A Quiet Place or if it's part of a franchise and made on the cheap like Paranormal Activity or The Conjuring. A limited release is not going to reach this incredibly narrow audience and it's not going to earn its cost of production. [quote]I also don't remember saying that it should get a major release I said the film could be made.[/quote] And I said it wouldn't be good regardless and even mentioned an independent production but again good luck putting that together. [quote]I also never said that some aspects wouldn't have to be re-written I'm saying the film could retain enough of the important themes without them. They managed to adapt The Road without keeping the fetus barbecue scene in the novel. They also managed to adapt IT [b]twice[/b] without the sewer orgy.[/quote] Neither of those examples are core to the narratives being told in the same way that sex, love, and swallowing after blowjobs is to the porn story about fucking a Lovecraft. If you start chopping away all the familiar and important bits you're left with a product that shares the name and little else. It's like having a character who in the source material is hideously scarred and maimed as a character trait and then in the movie version you just give her pretty face like a single cut on the cheek because otherwise audiences wouldn't buy into the romance. [quote]Saya adaptation is really straightforward, if I had any idea about screenwriting I could do it myself.[/quote] As someone who [i]has[/i] written screenplays it's really not complicated.