In all honesty, I don't know if I will join the next itineration of Divinus. I love you guys and had some fun years I hadn't had on the internet since 2011, but, ultimately, I am kinda tired. I spent a lot of time on KG and that was cut short. Furthermore, Ilunabar herself has kinda fallen into limbo and I don't ever feel like playing her. I just keep doing Mesathalassa and Dzanya stuff because I really like worldbuilding, so I am very attached to this part of the game, but right now I just have no thoughts in mind for a new character or a new god or a new nation or a new species... ¯\_('_' )_/¯ It has been frustrating to see that my work hasn't really advanced much, hell, sometimes it went backwards in quality, and that has been making me think a lot about my approach to things. Though new games do typically have more interaction between players, which is something I liked in early MK2 and Godspeed. So I do become kinda torn. With the things discussed here, I don't think there is much to add, godspeed thaught us a lot about how to run this game, clear and present structures are fun, the new prestige system was fun, Mater Lei was fun. We also already acknowledge that isolationism ain't fun, especially when characters are unreachable. However we did have a few issues, namely, the whole language issue, where we had a fight between players just wanting to move on and players not wanting to feel left behind, both valid sides. The same happened here in MK2, over metal weaponry, but I think the problems in MK2 were as much born from that issue as well as the problem of the difference between godly time and mortal time. It took a lot of handwaving to get away with having people being born in early stone age societies but dying in late bronze age societies. [s]One solution for that is making early mortals live for 500 years like in the bible, lol[/s] Edit: Oh! And give a wiki to the new game from the start. Or something similar, something better than having to deal with character sheets, which were abandoned in both versions, and then take that extra accessibility and make it recommended to have at least one short sentence explaining what is what on the wiki/whatever for important concepts. Edit 2: Quests should have added bonuses if the god giving the quest is not the same one which gave said hero their heroic status. It should also be possible to set up open quests which any hero can give a go at. Oh, and for real, keep the holy order/society and hero system of Godspeed, as someone who is using a lot MK2's society and hero system, that one was so much better.