This I find myself in agreement in, [@Liv]. As for another fact, barring just my mere agreement to one, it is a fact that I make far more effort than I should to appease others' social needs and wants, to the apparent point it is not clear enough to them what I have to say goes; I compromise liberally, as much as I am willing to, when I first make the motion. What I have to say or do on those grounds are my best offer, anything more is asking too much. I consider that particularly gracious of me to front the best offer and cut out all of this nonsense about dawdling back and forth with compromises, for if I were looking for prolonged, meaningless conversations my choices are not limited there.