[quote=@Etcetera] That doesn't make sense though. Our entire perception of reality relies on the fact that we accept logical derivations to be true. If we suddenly decide that they don't have to be, in this universe or in any other, we lose any ability to make sense of our own universe. As far as the world is concerned, if a conclusion isn't logical, it's false. And while you could claim otherwise, if you remove logic's ability to determine definite truth, it's impossible to prove whether or not your own claim is true. It's unfalsifiable, which is a fallacy (which I suppose also wouldn't matter if logic is stripped of its power?). [/quote] "It's unfalsifiable, which is a fallacy (which I suppose also wouldn't matter if logic is stripped of its power?)." Now you're getting it~ We're dealing with other universes, it's ALL unfalsifiable. Logic is just how our brains are wired to manage shit, and our brains are [i]fucked.[/i] Just look at how our eyes work, our brains are bullshit. For example, there's no way anyone is going to go to a universe exactly like ours except where gravity works in reverse, but that doesn't mean it can't exist in Existence.