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PS: Perhaps I should be a little more clear about this in order to avoid problems. The reason why I asked who you would be willing to take in when I apped a Servant is simply because you seem to be underestimating the capabilities of the Archers you mention as "balanced" by quite a lot. It feels like you are only looking to see who has a big nuke as an NP, or hax skills and deciding to ban them, but you forget that Servants (canon ones at least) have feats to exemplify and compare their abilities as well.

Just to point out three of the primary ones you seen to be taking too lightly just because they don't have an Enuma Elish, or Brahmastra under their NP section:

- Arash: While he does have an incredibly powerful NP, it's not practical to use so let's ignore it for the sake of argument. He's still the Archer with the longest range shots in the whole franchise, with the capability of shooting so fast and with such power that even Arthur has a really hard time defending against his arrows. At his best, he can literally cover the whole sky with arrows that hit like a truck, with enough power and area of effect to demolish the best part of Shinjuku if need be in one single volley.

- Tristan: Not only he's actually a Saber with a bow (thus being to hold himself in melee with great ease), but also just read Failnaught's description and you'll realize what kind of terror he's capable of inflicting on others.

- Atalanta: She's the second longest ranged shooter in the franchise (literally she can shoot people down from the other side of a valley), but also is able to track Jack the Ripper despite the fact that not even Chiron (with his far greater potential) was be able to. She's also an expert and hiding, and moving silently, and the fastest mortal of the Greek Age of the Gods (with only Achilles being able to outrun her). Also, she can snipe people across a pitch-black forest with super fast arrows painted in black so that it's impossible to see them coming (and thus, all but impossible to dodge).

There's a lot of other things that I could say but I guess that the gist of it is that it's not only NPs and skills that make up a Servant. Abilities, technique, and the potential implied traits granted by their legends and lore make a lot of difference as well.

Just to be clear once more, this isn't me being condescending or anything like this. I just want to make sure whether or not you understand the potential of Servants that don't have a NP capable of blowing a city in a fell swoop

I'm sure that the enemy is capable of many things, and I certainly am going to take whatever is it you say that they do and accept it. I just really want you to understand what Atalanta is capable of doing or not, so that you don't affect her with things she's supposed to be able to counter.

I hope that was understandable. And apologies if it sounds too forceful, but you really come across as someone who only looks at the raw stats sheet of the Servants and forgets to check their feats and abilities. Also, apologies if I misunderstood this side of yours as well, but when you said that I was "overhyping" Brynhildr, or that Arash is a "normal" Archer, or that Lancelot's Knight of Owner is "useless" in a forest, it got more or less evident to me that you don't know what many Servants are truly capable of.