[@BloodyRed] Of course, of course, I do the same thing by describing the likely effects of certain techniques. It's just another way to maintain control in a fight. I had supposed you were referencing the above kind of heart disruption in the Wikia, as I'm unfamiliar with the one you've brought up. Could I perhaps trouble you for a piece of reference material, maybe an online martial arts article, medical journal, or something similar that supports the validity of the technique? Also, I must stand by my statement that Kull's counter would occur before the punch, as the order of the actions as they occur is evident in the posts. The *KRIK* occured after the half-step, meaning Kull went for Red's thumb as soon as he was grabbed. And so, yes, Red can indeed let go before he's grabbed, and avoid the *Krik* before he finishes his half step, but that'd be /before/ his punch connects, or before he can even pull Kull in close.