[quote=@Bright_Ops] As for the Uruk's themselves and your statement on them... I do know what you mean and the points you made, but one does have to ask if why the Uruk's are the way they are is because of how they were created... or because of the environment they live in. Orcish society was... well, more or less engineered by Sauron so that his slave army would be purging itself of weakness while encouraging the strong, brutal and cunning to thrive. They also can't leave or go anywhere else because all the 'good' factions in Middle Earth have a kill on sight deal with all orcish kind. Under such circumstances, what are they meant to do? [/quote] To me it seemed they were created to fit the needs of Morgoth, Sauron, and Saruman. Each time, those needs necessitated a creature that by all other definitions would be "evil," to the extent that no matter what environment, they would somehow ruin it. If Orcs were born in a land of plenty, with lush trees, fruit, clean water, and plentiful game...they'd act on greed and gluttony, consuming and multiplying until those resources were used up, then fight each other for scraps. They'd rather burn and salt the earth than let someone else, even another Orc, get what they can't have. If a good race said "let's just give them a chance" and stopped the kill on sight mentality, or even if a race at the dawn of the world didn't have that mentality from the get go...the Orcs would see them as weak, and kill them and take all their stuff just because they felt like they could, or because they wanted it, or because they felt like they deserved it more for being strong. But in some ways that makes them interesting. They have small bits of logic and qualities that aren't entirely negative--not in the sense that any orc could truly be a good guy, but in the sense that it still takes courage for an Uruk to charge at Legolas after seeing all the other Uruks get sliced up. The best example of this to me in the games was the Grog Bowl artifact--You would think the Uruks are so dumb and brutish that they would be filthy eaters. Yet, they're soldiers in an army. Soldiers have to be effective in battle. That means they have to stay healthy, and they have to be disciplined. Thus, Grog bowls are actually meticulously cleaned to avoid "the old soldier's disease." That one throwaway collectible made me actually put down my controller and think about all the implications and depth there could be to the Orcs and their behaviors! And after all, it's your RP. That's why I asked, is there anything in your version of Orcish society for this game that players should try to stick to, or else to avoid? Are there pieces of it you'd rather pick out, or pieces you'd rather leave, etc.?