[@Sophrus][@Hank] Again, not saying anyone's concepts are bad. But they are anything but mundane and low-level. Yes, ogryn's are dumb, but they are still ogryns. That makes up for a lot, just because they're dumb doesn't mean they aren't powerful characters. They are at least equivalent in power and lethality to the space marines. If not more so, especially the daemonhost one.