[quote=@SleepingSilence] More like, people claiming they can't be disappointed about the entire list of missing features because there's kids starving in Mozambique.[/quote] When it comes to people enjoying the game even with its flaws (which range from minor to 'blown out of proportion' to 'actually wrong') or the people who would bring up Iwata as "THE GAME WOULD NEVER BE RELEASED IF HE WERE ALIVE" or the people petitioning for the government to stop selling it, I'm gonna go ahead and side with the former. People aren't out here saying the game is a perfect, flawless masterpiece. They are saying that it's a fun game because it's fucking Pokemon and Pokemon is a [i]fun game[/i]. You're allowed to like a game despite its issues. That doesn't make you a shill and it makes you sound far more reasonable than people who post the same gif of a turning legendary or "DEXIT DEXIT DEXIT" or a fucking tree on every post about Pokemon. [quote][i]Yes, more polished games with better graphics, on the same console.[/i] I took at look at it and yeah, you can't tell me it was the best they could do. The idea that this game wasn't rushed to get it out before Black Friday (or more likely Christmas) is something I very much doubt.[/quote] Jedi: Fallen Order was rushed. That game could have used six more months to sort out its stability issues, its load times, optimization, and hiccups. It's still a good game. SwSh runs at a consistent frame rate when docked (other than the Wild Area which also has hundreds of other people all running around and Nintendo has always struggled with online connectivity) and part of the reason it keeps the framerate is the render distance. It's not bad graphics or lazy development or whatever because the game pops in 3D models when they come into render distance: that's how game development works. [quote]The process simply sounded tedious when he explained it in greater detail.[/quote] How did he explain it, with a fucking powerpoint? [quote]But your witticisms don't really matter to me, as I really haven't played/been a fan of the games. So this new critic obsession with "people don't like the new thing because of changes that take away the value from a previous experience, so I'm going to defend this one by saying old games suck now/more." doesn't really register with me.[/quote] I can defend this game without having to compare it to old games. I also don't get my information second hand. Disssssssss. [quote](Though the three button press, I looked it up, takes one google search and a few seconds. So yes, the new option certainly takes longer. So that point seems a bit moot.)[/quote] It doesn't take longer. You don't even have to load up the game and it deletes data FASTER. [quote]Yeah how dare he have a sense of humor! Fuck that guy! They should be consuming the product![/quote] Yeah, that's so funny, did he name his other Pokemon 'Shit' and 'PoopyDiaper' and 'FartFart'? [quote]In the same way I think disappointed fans don't have to be merely complacent.[/quote] If the past six months have taught people anything it's that disappointed fans both can't help themselves from shouting and also still buying the game anyway. No one is saying fans don't have a right to be disappointed; but people can enjoy the game without being demonized because of it. [quote]And the idea (expressed a lot by others, not specifically yourself) that people can't have opinions either way "until it comes out/purchase it themselves" is obviously fallacious. As the people wouldn't have gotten something like the new less shitty looking Sonic. (Not that, that will improve the movie itself, but hey good PR and it won't give the kiddies night terrors anymore.) [/quote] You know what's a bad precedent? Shouting at people to make them change something you don't like. People can certainly have opinions, but we're dealing with an audience of people who disagree with high reviews on games they already told themselves will suck (vice versa for games they convinced would be amazing and then aren't). Outrage culture is a vocal minority that acts like a majority. But if you don't play a game because you personally think it's not worth your time/value/whatever that's fine, but you also waive the right to make informed personal opinions on the quality of the finished, purchased product. Well you still [i]could[/i], but I'd sooner trust the opinion of someone who has actually played/experienced the product good or bad.