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[s]When it comes to people enjoying the game even with its flaws (which range from minor to 'blown out of proportion' to 'actually wrong') or the people who would bring up Iwata as "THE GAME WOULD NEVER BE RELEASED IF HE WERE ALIVE" or the people petitioning for the government to stop selling it, I'm gonna go ahead and side with the former.[/s] People aren't out here saying the game is a perfect, flawless masterpiece. [s]They are saying that it's a fun game because it's fucking Pokemon and Pokemon is a [i]fun game[/i].[/s] You're allowed to like a game despite its issues. [s]That doesn't make you a shill and it makes you sound far more reasonable than people who post the same gif of a turning legendary or "DEXIT DEXIT DEXIT" or a fucking tree on every post about Pokemon. [/s]
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Game critics are giving it near perfect scores. But yes, yes you can like or dislike something for pretty much any reason one chooses. *I don't want to spam more examples of the white knighting, because we'd be here all day.*

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Jedi: Fallen Order was rushed. That game could have used six more months to sort out its stability issues, its load times, optimization, and hiccups. It's still a good game. SwSh runs at a consistent frame rate when docked (other than the Wild Area which also has hundreds of other people all running around and Nintendo has always struggled with online connectivity) and part of the reason it keeps the framerate is the render distance. It's not bad graphics or lazy development or whatever because the game pops in 3D models when they come into render distance: that's how game development works. 
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Kay? And games that aren't rushed, don't have those problems. Games can be fun, rushed. Bad movies can be fun ironically. Until we can argue complacency with laziness is good, don't think we're getting anywhere.

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How did he explain it, with a fucking powerpoint? It doesn't take longer. You don't even have to load up the game and it deletes data FASTER. 
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Granted, he's not exactly the most tech literate. Though, it 'deletes faster' because of the Switch. 

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I can defend this game without having to compare it to old games. I also don't get my information second hand. Disssssssss. 
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Well, you'd be wrong. So...

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Yeah, that's so funny.
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You can fun ticket him later, Chief.

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If the past six months have taught people anything it's that disappointed fans both can't help themselves from shouting and also still buying the game anyway. No one is saying fans don't have a right to be disappointed; but people can enjoy the game without being demonized because of it.
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This statement seems a bit confused, the former sounds like you're mocking fans for fandom. 'Because of their lacking willpower.' And the later you're lambasting those that demonize fans who usually buy things because of nostalgia. (A thing this game does pander too, by adding a lot of 1 gen pokemon in the Dex.) Why can't you enjoy or dislike something & rightfully criticize it? 

And if you didn't happen to read my thing, or just forgot already, there's literally people saying you can't be sad about the game. But I digress.

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You know what's a bad precedent? Shouting at people to make them change something you don't like. People can certainly have opinions, but we're dealing with an audience of people who disagree with high reviews on games they already told themselves will suck (vice versa for games they convinced would be amazing and then aren't). Outrage culture is a vocal minority that acts like a majority. But if you don't play a game because you personally think it's not worth your time/value/whatever that's fine, but you also waive the right to make informed personal opinions on the quality of the finished, purchased product. 

Well you still [i]could[/i], but I'd sooner trust the opinion of someone who has actually played/experienced the product good or bad. 
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Sure, outrage culture bad. But then again, it's an erroneous comparison, as most of the time, the people hating something for social/political reasons would've never purchased the thing in the first place.

Because you say this like it's a universal rule, but it's not at all, and I'd argue most "angry gamers" incidents are almost always justified grievances. (Bad apples aside.) 

And the last bit seems oddly doubtful for some reason, maybe because my roommate has it, and I can literally watch him play and everything. (I can even play it myself.) And you don't seem to thrilled about him having an opinion, or was one of the gazillion (estimated figure) people who played pokemon who called their rival a bad word.

Though to make this conversation more mild. I and my roommate aren't really apart of either extreme. And after playing, "it's fun" has been said. So, there's no one spoiling anyone's fun, but it seems odd that certain people can't have fun (or enjoy things less) when things are criticized. Aren't the very best things in entertainment, even better when you think or go into detail about them and analyze what they got right?