[quote=gorgenmast]
Bear in mind that while Veden is geographically in the north, it's only access to the sea is downstream through what is presumably at least a thousand miles of lakes and rivers of sometimes questionable navigability. On top of that, the mouth of these rivers is far in the southeast of the map, which is probably another several thousandish miles from Zivar waters.Now I'd be happy to have your envoys to be sure. Just bear in mind that it's going to take any ship bound for Veden a long time to arrive. But perhaps I can meet them halfwayish with this expedition I've sent downstream.
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Ahh, I hadn't taken that into account. It would be impractical of the Zivar to send an envoy such a long way and over questionable waters. I'll discount Veden as a destination then and if you want to have you expeditionary force cross the paths of one of the envoys, feel free.