[@Gunther] Don't I know it. Not really worried about them, well no more than a mother does, more of a kick them out of a nest than hold on type. My daughter has a good head on her shoulders: Supports herself/works/college, and I'm not naive enough to think she hasn't been drinking, lol. And with my oldest son, well went through the whole learners permit thing with his sister. It's just one of those milestone years for two of the kids so it brings it to the forefront a bit more than seeing the grays in the mirror every day does, lol. Random Factoid: First book series I actually recall reading was the Boxcar Children. O.o