[quote=@Fabricant451]
[sub]And also the best Star Wars movie they've ever made[/sub] 
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I see you trying to sneak in that subliminal messaging there. :lol

Heavens I hated the Star Trek Reboots, sure they were fun and flashy but they were most certainly not [i]Star Trek[/i].  All flash and no substance which is the exactly opposite of what Star Trek is suppose to be.  Star Trek is suppose to be about asking hard questions about the possible future and commentary on issues we have today, not blasting the next week's bad guy.

TLJ is probably my least favorite but I do wonder if that will change once I've seen the last one.  I'll give them props for trying something new but...I will never get over that terrible Hyperspace kamikaze attack.  Also those stupid 'bombers' IN SPACE and the arching cannon shots from the star destroyers, IN SPACE just about killed me.  Applying planetary type logic to space battles is just...ugh.  If they hadn't messed up such fundamentals I 'might' have been more inclined to give the story a chance.  Ok, probably not but at least then I wouldn't have felt almost, [i]insulted[/i] by the movie.