[hider=I never said that you couldn't use your own characters.] [quote] But you telling us that we couldn't write for characters some of us had for 5+ years was a slap in the face.[/quote] Literally never said that. I said don't write for the WRC universe. Never said not to use your characters. [quote]I really do feel like what me and Aria and some of the others who were there have been doing from the beginning - expanding timelines, creating edits, writing side stories, the Pinterest/Tumblr, etc - is what kept this entire concept alive, and that it would have died three years ago, after your third iteration, if not for us. [/quote] [i]You[/i] are not the reason WRC is still alive. I had plotted, created boards and everything else. I'm grateful for what everyone has done for WRC, but for there to be insinuation that y'all did more for the RP than I did is bullshit. The first three tries were when I had not net access. I was young and dumb, what can I say? [quote]NGL, I was posting at the very last second because life was busy, which I'm sure you can understand.[/quote] And that's all you had to say - but you never did. [quote]I took a more passive role with Co-GM things because you didn't seem like you wanted me interfering with anything. I was fine with it, because it seemed like what you thought best - and if you remember, I did bring up moving on earlier than you'd originally planned with you. [/quote] I do remember. I also remember that you only brought it up right towards the end of the event as well. I never acted like I didn't want you there. You blatantly acted out against my decisions as GM in the general discord chat without coming to me first. Constantly undermining my authority, constantly making things harder. You went against me [i]so[/i] many times in the fucking server. In front of our players. How can you ever expect to run an RP like that? Furthermore, I never acted like I didn't want you there, even when things were made difficult. I came to you for decision making. I came to you for issues that we had with writers. So don't try and make it out like I forced you to be passive. [quote]And, I will be 100% honest, but you didn't seem very happy that I was there all the time, especially with the bit about Beatrice's relations sheet. So I thought - not going to say anything, just let it go. [/quote] If I ever made you feel like that - you should have told me. We could have worked on it. I never meant for you to feel that way, and as a GM I would never make any of my players feel that way, no matter the history. Also, what happened with Bea's sheet was a mild understanding. You had copied and pasted Alejandro's, so all of the relations were the [i]exact same[/i] until the very last characters. So yes. I assumed that the whole sheet was the same, and you still needed to edit. And if [i]you[/i] remember correctly, you explained what was going on, I cleared her to post, and everything was fine. [quote]It's not. Raven's not in this. Neither are any of the characters of the people who decided to completely drop, like Ara and Erik. I asked everyone else, and they said they would prefer to start at a point sometime after the welcome ball, so that's what I did. [/quote] Just because Raven isn't in this, along with a hand full of others, doesn't mean that it's not WRC. They are still the same characters, in the same setting, following the same course of events over the previous IC. [quote]Telling me that we couldn't write for the concept or our characters anymore was like a slap in the face to everyone who'd stayed with the concept over the course of five years. Let me be blunt: you can't just tell people not to write for their own characters, or for the kingdoms that they created. No GM had any part in the character/kingdom creation process. No GM can claim any ownership over any of the characters or kingdoms.[/quote] [i][b][u]I never said that you could not use the Kingdoms, or the characters. I said you couldn't use the WRC setting. There is a difference. I have never claimed any right to any characters but my own.[/u][/b][/i] [quote]Shy and I decided to do a theme park - an idea that we tossed around during the last iteration I ran, which I found in an old google doc - and after conferring with Poo, it was moved to the day after a picnic brunch, three days after the welcome ball. [/quote] I call bullshit. Every post in this thread blatantly states a week after the welcome ball/festivities. [quote]Furthermore, your original plot had all the characters getting married in a series of weddings set up by the Aciran royal family. I decided to do something different and just have Lea be extra and invite everyone to her own wedding, an idea which you took without saying a single word to me for your last iteration.[/quote] Actually no. The characters were linked by their betrothals set up by their own governments and they had yet to be married. I wasn't aware that Raven planning her sisters wedding and inviting people there was stealing you idea? Again - of you had a problem with that, you should have spoken up. Learn to use your words. [quote]We don't have to use the royal aspect of things, but why should we be banned from using it when modern day royalty isn't a new idea? I don't care about anything in the future, but you literally can't just tell people not to write for their characters. We just want to explore things at our own pace without making too many adjustments. As you can see, I'm not posting an int check or anything for this. This is a closed, PRIVATE place to write for our OWN characters.[/quote] Oh my fucking god, how many times are you going to claim that I said that you couldn't write with your characters when [I]I NEVER SAID THAT.[/I] [quote]So what if it is?[/quote] Seriously? The so what was that you said you would stop writing for WRC. The so what is that you lied and said that you respected my wishes and that you would stop, but clearly have not. That is the so what. [quote]We do want to still have fun with these characters that we made ourselves. And I'm not going to lie, but you telling me that I can't write for characters I've developed over the course of five years was, as you said, a slap in the face. It felt like you were disregarding everything that I put into this along with you - the Pinterest, the Tumblr, the edits I've made for everyone (including your characters), the plot development and separate timelines and everything. A lot of us have put so much into the characters and plots we came up for them, and I don't think you have any right to dictate what we do with our characters. [/quote] The slap in the face was you [i]lying[/i] - not anything to do with the characters. I never disregarded anything that anyone had done. Never said that you couldn't write for the characters. Never said that you couldn't continue with the pinterest, tumblr, etc. I even told you that you could continue them!! HaleyTheRandom 01/18/2020 If you want to keep editing the dolls, the aesthetics, and the tumblr boards that is fine. But the WRC concept is done. It's dead. It's not about how much or how little I want to be involved. This has been my creation from the get go and I really, honestly, think it's best if we stop writing for it for the time being. [quote]Furthermore, if you decide to run another iteration of WRC, please ask me before you copy paste anything that I wrote, including the description of the premise. And please ask me and credit me for incorporating the changes I made in premise - namely having it be a big party before a wedding, instead of having it be a big party before a series of weddings facilitated by the Aciran monarchy.[/quote] The Welcome Ball has always been the big party before the wedding. You obviously have your information wrong, because the Acirans never facilitated anything. The whole fucking idea was there to be a celebration of the Aciran wedding from the [i]very[/i] beginning. The welcome ball and the invites to the party/ball were to celebrate the Aciran wedding and allow the royals to interact before they wed due to their own choice. __________________________ Trust and believe, that I won't need to ask you for anything. I have plenty of ideas of my own that I can and will use, if I ever decide to bring [i]my[/i] RP back. I'm not trying to trademark modern royalty, but you are trying to claim my idea as your and run with it. You are still trying to play innocent and act like you have no idea what I'm talking about, just like you did in DM's. I never tried to trademark anything that wasn't [i]mine[/i]. I asked you to stop using things that were [i]mine.[/i] You can incorporate these same characters, and these same plots in to just about any RP. You chose to keep doing this this way. And just because you removed betrothals, or used a different 'main' character, doesn't mean that it isn't WRC anymore. Just because you added and brunch, and claim to have moved the dates around, doesn't mean that it's still not a continuation of the current IC, which I asked to be stopped. Again - just so we are clear - I never said stop using your characters. I said stop using When Royalty Collides. [/hider]