[quote=@Anakin] [@Flood] Except, we are talking about an actual Archer Herc, not the one that is half Avenger-fied/Alteriized by weird summoning. [/quote] No no, what I'm trying to say is shouldn't Archer Herk be the banned one? Even Avenger/Archer Alcides is weaker than regular old Archer Herk, since he's actively rejecting his Divinity and any powers that might come from the gods. Actual Archer Herk (as well as Alcides), can go toe to toe with Gilgamesh, so wouldn't he be considered, "too strong" by the definitions you're using, rather than Berserker Heracles? Anyhow, I could probably fill for any class, I have more than a few ideas for Servants.