[quote=@webboysurf] Oof. This'll be such a tough loss. Dunno how I'll live with it. [/quote] In all seriousness, I don't hate dubs. I just hate every YGO dub because they're actually terrible compared to the original. Cut scenes, awful performances, headache-inducing script changes, a vastly inferior soundtrack and all around just incredibly dumbed down. Some people defend it by going "lul look at this guy complaining a show for kids is being dumb/has a lot of jokes" but my god I hate that defense. The humor in GX, for example, works because they play the absolute lunacy completely straight. They don't poke fun at the thing already being poked fun at any further than they have to. There's also blatantly retcon'd plotpoints. A really infamous one is how in the duel with Mai back in Duelist Kingdom, in the dub, "Yugi" was dueling her and getting his ass kicked. He didn't want the spirit of the puzzle to take control again and brutally go to town on her like he did with Kaiba. Only that never actually happened; the original plotpoint was that Yugi's other self was playing terribly because he wasn't even considering Mai as an opponent in the moment. He was so hyperfixated on fighting Pegasus that he forgot to respect the duelist he was [i]actually[/i] fighting, Mai. It's nonsensical changes like this that grind my gears into fine powder. Not every voice performance in DM is awful, but I'm gonna be honest with you, Dan Green just doesn't do it for me with how screechy he made Yugi and how hoarse he made Atem. Sounds fine in Darkside of Dimensions, but not in the original. then there's also just outright terrible voice choices, like the absolute butchery that is the 4 Yu-boys from Arc-V. Or, if you want an early one, how about the guy Ryo(Zane) fought in the underground duel ring? They made this absolutely shredded hulk of a man sound like a literal child and it just seeps away all the threat from him. The dub also grossly simplifies every character's dialogue to the point they get just one character trait. Seto, in the original, actually admitted the existence of magic, but he still considers it "Occult nonsense" because technology can surpass it. In the dub he just staunchly refuses to acknowledge the reality that magic exists at all.