[quote=@Raineh Daze] Masters I know we don't have this information for: Shirou, Rin, Sakura, Kirei, Kayneth, Ritsuka, any of the Crypters, Ryuunosuke, almost all of the Apocrypha masters... Who we do: Waver and Caules. "Standard measuring stick" my arse. It's a lot rarer than it is common. It's completely useless for working out much of [i]anything[/i] due to being so rare and inconsistently applied. And Strange Fake is completely unimportant to anything ever. [/quote] Well most of them appear in Case Files, cuz most people are magi there. Look I'm not going to argue with you about how accurate they are since I mostly add that in for standard fate flavor and hey if you don't like it I can remove it since I'm just heavily into details so I give as much information as I possibly can. As for the actual number second paragraph on the history section, I explicitly said large number of high-quality ones, so yeah pretty above average considering the extra ones from the crest as well. I'll put it into abilities just to be clear. [quote] Ernest now Atem, was born with a [b]large number of high-quality magic circuits[/b] amongst the family, having been born from a union between his mother and a particularly powerful spare to a 10th generation magus family arranged with their riches after his father's family accrued debt during a hefty purchase from the mystic eyes auction. Atem showed great promise in the use of his family's magecraft at a young age which grew more prominent as he possessed a dual affinity of Fire and Earth, and was taught elemental magecraft for battle by a tutor. [/quote]