[quote=@Dolerman] Shit, dude. did you get an internship at ubisoft this summer? I'm talking about ghost in relation to AC because that was literally how I started the discussion. On it's own merits it's just fine. Compared to AC games in general it's refreshing. Oddessy just wasn't that good, very few AC or Ubisoft games are. But I see this is series you're invested in so I won't do this dance. Hopefully you'll pull a RDR2 or God Of War (2018) and just end up changing your mind about the game completely, rendering this whole discussion kind of moot. [/quote] But it's not refreshing. It's also-ran. It's just got a unique coat of paint. That doesn't make it bad, it just makes it a remix of a song that some people like more than the original. You're out here acting like I hate the game because I think it's like a 3/5 as opposed to a 4/5. Odyssey is better than it but outside of them both having open world trappings and stealth, one is an RPG and the other isn't and the systems therein differentiate them. If Tsushima didn't have the technical/lighting aspect then it would be an actively worse game but it does and that helps cover for the rest of it - like covering a crack in the wall with a nice painting. And for the record, I think God of War 2018 is a bad action game and I only 'changed my mind' about RDR2 because I played more of it and the issues became impossible to ignore - congrats to you for disliking it first I guess, your medal got lost in the mail though, shipping is a motherfucker. I'm likely not about to change my mind on Tsushima because right now my mind is at "This is a serviceable game that I probably won't really think about once I put it down". Why do you act like someone changing their opinion on something when presented with a fuller picture is bad?