[quote=@The World] Hmm. Glad I asked, that means I need to specify either in my CS or IC a few things, since it must have slipped under the radar how small the S.A.T.A.N. is, heh. Which would be better to specify that in? Basically I just need to say that there's a full sized Oberth in the Metatron but the Satan uses a smaller one for itself. [/quote] [quote=@Krayzikk] Um. It's been pointed out to me that I read how the Metatron/S.A.T.A.N. gimmick worked really wrong, and as a result missed its size. I'll get back to you on that. [/quote] Okay, so first off this is my bad. I dropped the ball on reading it line by line and I missed that the S.A.T.A.N. was so small. Somehow I got it in my head a different idea of how the form change worked and I interpreted everything after that in light of how I [i]thought[/i] it worked and missed how it was [i]supposed[/i] to work. Which does leave us with a conundrum. 4m is just too small to fit in the destructive potential the S.A.T.A.N. has, even setting aside the fact that you couldn't fit a proper Oberth reactor inside of it. At 4m a person takes up more than a third of its total space just by being inside it to pilot, which doesn't leave space for a reactor, capacitors, weapon systems, and all of the other necessities packed into it as it stands right now. The Outrider has the issue of power generation but it also doesn't have a ton to [i]run[/i]. The most energy intensive systems it has are the stealth ones, and considering it doesn't use much in the way of beam weapons and its low mass even a smaller Oberth reactor could believably manage that, and the Outrider is still 150% the size of the S.A.T.A.N. in its present form. It meanwhile has a lot more destructive potential even without factoring in the energy wings. There are a couple of ways we can go about this. The issue as it stands is that it's too strong and too energy intensive for its size. So the two options that I see, really, are to bump up the size and put the main reactor in the Metatron with a supplemental one in the S.A.T.A.N. One of its flaws is its power consumption anyway, so that would fit. The other option is to scale down the S.A.T.A.N.'s offensive power a little bit more and run it on capacitors alone charged by the main reactor in the Metatron. That would give it a shorter operational time, but still a reason for it to be able to function at its size. Again, a lot of this stuff can change down the road. But right now with the tech level present the S.A.T.A.N. just isn't really feasible. If it was [i]possible[/i] to build an Orbital that small without a substantial loss in power, everyone would be doing it. [quote=@ArmorPlated] Looking over what's been posted so far, I'm struggling to find an actual niche to fill. I've got a few ideas floating around, but they're too vague for me to actually use quite yet. [/quote] I wouldn't worry about finding a unique niche overly much. I think I wouldn't advise making a target designator sort of machine (we've got two of them), but there are 70+ machines on board the Pyxis. There's going to be overlap for certain. That said, we don't have anything in the vein of dedicated space/air superiority if you wanted to go that route.