[quote=@alexfangtalon] [@Kaggs][@Inkarnate] Since someone else is leaning towards the best friend character I think I'm going to go with that younger brother idea which means if y'all go with what you said you're going with we'd be familia. How much collaboration with character-building would y'all wanna do? [/quote] As we're both writing a self-destructive kind of black sheep I'd love to work out the dynamic of how the solemn attitude of the father contributed to the son and his rebellious nature. I agree with Ink though, Andy was the first to make it- that doesnt mean none of us couldn't have since his departure, I'd be surprised if not one sibling had a stangle job or satisfying like or some sorts, but that might go to the Mom if nobody taker her/Mao is okay with her as an npc? My idea for the father so far is someone out of work for the last few years, maybe half a decade at most. Too prideful to take a smaller job he spends his days waiting for the job agency to call, day drinking, day sleeping and burning through his savings. He'd be in his late 50s to 60s around this time, so there'd be pressure to retire officially, but he doesn't have the money, and again he's too prideful to rely on his children. Well thats what I imagine he'll be doing before Andy returns. We could make a group pm if we need to discuss easily without clogging the ooc.