[quote=@PPQ Purple] But that's the point. All MMOs that have come since or have "evolved" past this are simply doing it wrong. [/quote] Which is why they continue to make money, right? Because they're doing it wrong. Doing it wrong = holding more players than before and making more cash. Obviously. [quote=@PPQ Purple]Which by the way is the reason I quit the genre to begin with. It changed and now it sucks and I hold and will hold this to my dying day. [/quote] Mate you literally can't remember shit about the MMO's you played. I remember spending hours on Blade & Soul PvP, I remember throwing ninja stars in Maple Story and grinding out event currency, I remember fucking around in Goldshire in WoW. These games have given me so many worthwhile experiences, even before the evolution, and yet you're going to sit here and tell me that the games you admit you barely remember were doing their job better than the games I remember clearly and have fond memories of? If I want to socialize with my friends I go play Left 4 Dead 2. That's a great party game. It's almost like you hate videogames and you have no good arguments, but you like to pretend you know what you're talking about to prop yourself up when you're full of it.