[quote=@Mae] I see! if the votes balance out at 2 v 2 for Forge / Stronghold after their final decisions that leaves [@Dark Cloud] with the deciding vote. For the entrance, it looks like the consensus so far is something along the lines of taking over an abandoned dwarvern relic. If it's too cold perhaps underground there are steam vents or magma flows if you get down deep enough, with higher levels being cooler. There's a consensus on magical illumination in the dungeon which works well, and so far a preference for a balanced hoard - mostly magical crystals with gold, armor and weapons mixed in. The gold/ weapon /armor based on what raids you've done recently. I know there are still conversations going on IC that are unresolved but I'm going to throw a spanner in the mix with a GM post today. [/quote] Well I feel like a Forge could lead to a mixed game of politics and combat, a Stronghold however isn't well suited towards Zaz'ak. It seems like Forge is a decent comprise to the Stronghold. So [@Mae] my vote goes for Forge.