you are correct but If I remember correctly they were not truly via his shield. He did learn to make accessories and sytnesis potions via his shields. I will do some research. It may be something that Fer discovers IC. Maybe through some ancient text hint hint there [@Whoami] lol. Man I really need more shields. I feel that my character is lagging behind but I dont feel there has been any credible situation for him to feed monsters into his shield and acquire new ones. am I wrong?