[quote=@AdorableSaucer] [@Dark Cloud] Don't worry, by the way - I will not wipe you out immediately, if that's what you fear. However, the ogres are supposed to be incredibly hard to play. The goal is for them to be fun to play, though, so I will do my best to make it a great experience for you. :D [/quote] Hey, I love a challenge and ogres seemed like a fun choice. No problem, I just had some concern that's all. In actuality like I said before, the ruins give the Ogshog two things: Less of a chance of failure on infrastructure and selling stuff to other nations. Two things that are vital in protecting the settlement and providing a source of trade when the time comes. You see I did take that into consideration because I want to be able to survive.