Kay listened and couldn't see how it would be any different when it was his mistakes. Yet it was when he put into question if he was any different to the monsters out in the world. She let put her index finger and thumb u der his chin and made him look at her. "John listen to me, you are nothing like those beings out there. I know I don't know much about you, or your past but I know deep down there's a good guy underneath that massive wall you've clearly mentally put up. If you were so bad Chas wouldn't stuck around as long as he has. But I see a good guy beyond it all who quite literally put his life on the line to save me. I've never had that in my life before" she told him.

Chas wondered when it would start to show that John had many skeletons in the closet and Serena would start noticing them. "we both do. Difference is that John can never move on from it. He lost a kid to a demon in our early naiive days back in Newcastle, England. A demon was trying to take kids and he thought summoning a bigger demon to fight the other one was a good idea. It backfired on us massively and the kid Astra got taken to Hell by said bigger demon. He's never forgiven himself since." he explained. "that's just one thing he still holds guilt for. There's a long list of things" he added. Glancing into the other room, he saw how Kay was talking to John, beside him on the bed and wondered if she could start to help him move on from his past. Or if she'd be another person who has failed to make him let go.