Trish thought for a few minutes then said “it depends. Some times before and a few times during. I can’t be sure about the ones involving you guys but…they are the first ones that keep happening over and over again” John took the jar with a nod and moved the other one, setting it down and said “we to seal that. Don’t let any touch your skin” Serena was panting now, looking ill but healing. She had a firm grip on his hands, happy to have something to focus on.