[quote=@DX3214] I mean there are also other events like Mr house wins, the new California republic wins or the courier/player with Yesman, takes over the Mojave as its personal kingdom or republic or whatever. So there is many ways you can play the aftermath of new vegas, there is a lot of timelines to pick not counting the events of fallout 3, 4 far harbor, and others. just a few choices can give power or lose power to some factions. [/quote] Yeah, it's just a matter of getting people to agree on which is canon. I think it'll be more clear once people get their concepts in. [quote=@Andronicus23] Right but this is hardly fair to an RP'er though, and I don't really expect us to follow lore 100% regardless. New Vegas assumes the Legion will fail because its assumed Caesar is the only one capable of holding the Legion together. That may not be true with this RP depending on the characters someone brings in to replace Caesar. [/quote] I think it's a good ancedote to go off of, but for my personal interpretation of the Legion, it'd be more of finding a capable leader who can "gracefully take a fall". Maintaining the Legion after a monumental defeat that was the 2nd Battle of Hoover Dam might send it down a death spiral from which it may never recover, but that doesn't mean that there aren't things they can do to keep their house afloat. I think playing around with that sort of idea might make for an interesting Legion to write about.