[quote=@Zoey Boey]
yup its true, joker has too much plot armor to lose

(which is also why the 'debate' about why batman doesnt kill him is very silly)
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Just once I want them to do a Batman story where someone grills him for not killing Joker for the 495th time, and Batman says "Dude, we live in a world where ghosts are real. Do you really want goddamn GHOST JOKER floating around? Because that's absolutely what we're gonna get."