[quote=Etcetera] It's just.... ewwwww, curves. I work with pixels. I need a grid to perfect it. Without pixels, I would never have had Surprise's profile pics. I need to be able to zoom in to those fundamental building blocks of images. [/quote] You can work with the curves at very low levels. And you don't need to go down to the bottom to work with vectoring. Let's try something... We both make the same pony, with our own methods. That is, if you ever had time.