Serena's idea of why it was happening to her hands seemed logical to Josh, but then anything they said to him at this moment would seem logical to him. "possibly, we'll figure it out" he reassured her. "it does seem though you need to not overwork yourself" he chuckled softly. Kay smiled glad that she's had fun after everything the poor kid has been through lately. When Renee showed her face, she didn't know what kind of woman she was expecting to be Chas' ex wife, but she didn't instantly think of someone looking like Renee. She gave a small smile and wave of her hand in greeting that Renee gave a nod to. "hello Kay." Renee greeted before looking at John to ack owledge what he said, noting how he was doing his usual purposely being as nice as possible to not piss her off. "well, as you can see it's all good here. How long will you be here?" she replied to him, never liking John in her house. "Renee" Chas said exasperated, his way of telling her to behave and not start the tension and possible argument again. "we won't be long. Serena wanted to see Josh and your place wasn't out of our way. We've been on the road for most of this day, so I needed to stretch my legs" Kay explained, "Chas told us it was okay to do so" she added. "She's right Renee, I did" Chas confirmed.