"what can a shadow of a phoenix mean? I'm guessing nothing good if you saw the kids running from it?" Kay replied, when Chas walked into the room drying his hands on his jeans as he did. "Trish told me about one in her dreams, she didn't think it was bad as other bad things disappeared when that bird arrived" he explained, looking at Trish to check he got that right. Kay looked between Chas and Trish then at Serena and everyone else, "so if its not a bad sign, what's the other options? The kids were crying out for help to Serena when she traced the warning" Kay pointed out, "wait...kids? There's another one?" Chas asked, having missed the moment when Serena explained with Josh about them having a son in the future.