[quote=@The World] This is basically why Karen has a Legend level. The Lotus Sutra itself would be Myth, being basically a Buddhist bible, but since it manifested the way it did I knocked it down to Legend. Santa is probably Legend level anyway; it's hard to imagine that he has the level of influence the myths we've seen have. I mean, if freakin' Journey to the West is only a Legend, I would find it hard to argue that santa is Myth. Especially since there's no real set story to santa as much as he's just a famous character. [/quote] Nice take, thank you. That's a helpful perspective. The main thing with Myths as far as I can tell is that they need to be fundamental and have pretty much worldwide influence in some way, which was where my mind went with that. Santa basically somehow already has half the equation, which is a little mind boggling to think about, considering his tale only has about 200 years under its belt. But yeah, in terms of an actual story and the longevity of his myth's existence, there's no way if could actually fully capitalize on that fame. It's the sort of story with shaky foundations that somehow managed to get absurd amounts of influence for what it was, which is where it the whole "Legend" bit comes in, since it's definitely not weak enough to be just a Fable. The main issue, of course, is actually just finding the right piece of literature that has the most "base" influence on the existence that is Santa Claus.