[quote=@Fabricant451] An advocate for diversity in media But a game that is free to play is absolutely going to find some way to make money. [/quote] 1. Yeah. There's a right and wrong way to add inclusion. But advocates don't tend to care about how its done/how much sense it makes. So long as it happens. [b][i][s]And look at how fucking terrifying they made that character's face.[/s][/i][/b] 2. See above. There's a right and wrong way to handle your game and its practices. When you encourage players "to get rid of the grind", what do you think happened first? A. They saw player feedback and added paid options to help. B. They designed the game to be slow, monotonous and grindy. To add paid options to get impatient and frustrated players to spend their money. Also, any time I see a defender of something use a "this bad too" argument. They don't seem to grasp that the arguer will more than likely dislike those practices [b]even more[/b] than the one that's now bringing them up. (Because they're only doing it for 'whataboutisms' for their defense. And not through genuine concern or actual critique of bad consumer practices, which motives the one doing the criticizing in the first place.) So, to sum this up in the best way possible. "Pay to win games can be good guys. guys. And bad games can suck for other reasons. Guys guys." Is a shit argument. And if you like something and actually want it to succeed, you'd critique it's negative points and bad consumer practices. My two cents anyway.