[quote=@Zyx] >Right, but Archangel vessels are outright unphased and immune to damage from pretty much all mundane sources, which is why I was wondering how damage should work because I don't know whether or not to classify an attack made by Shinji as mundane or strong enough to break through Lucifer's invulnerability. >Namely this bit here: [b]Invulnerability[/b] - Archangels are impervious to most supernatural means, and it is completely impossible for them to be harmed by conventional means. [/quote] I will throw this bit in here: The concept of true invulnerability doesn't exactly exist in this roleplay, considering that there are characters in this role play could be considered well past 'gods' and 'deities' of any kind. Also keep in mind, shinji is using a weapon from his demi-god powers.