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[@Letter Bee]

Saudi grievances aren't really grievances anyone else is willing to address because also the Caliphate is the Ottoman Empire and part of the flex is part of the show of piety. And a class thing everyone from Muhammad Ali to the Sultan to every Emir in Syria and Mesopotamia would believe is their right to show flash and bling. They are the only ones who can afford to make Hajj.

Also you do realize Ethiopians have beaten armies at home with a much wider technology gap and you're going to go stomping off into Ethiopia with muzzle loading muskets, and not even much later European breach loading rifles and expect this to be anything but a punitive expedition on the people doing it? Because really: they're not going to do anything or get anywhere. The Ethiopian highlands are notoriously brutal and for the most parts roads will not exist to allow a massive army to adeptly navigate. Never mind Ethiopian coffee at this stage is notoriously low quality and in some cases lethal, because the primitive way dry processing works anywhere in the 19th century can make a cup of coffee poison. The Dutch have the market cornered on real high quality, modern wet processed coffee from Indonesia way, and theirs absolutely will not kill the drinker because wet processing coffee was a 100 fold safer than dry processing at this time (even if more bitter)
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1.) Understood. This means that there will only be some swatting around, then.

2.) Damnit. Should this be voided, or is it okay to send 6000 men and a siege train to die for nothing?