>I should note that unless it's a clan Bane, holy anything and stuff like garlic doesn't work on VtM vampires. Guns and such do, as do incendiary rounds, and decapitation, but not the traditional weaknesses. Not unless it's a weakness of their particular clan. >There is true faith, but that can be actual faith/conviction in the power of anything. A man with true faith in the power of money could repel a vampire with a credit card for example. Otherwise holy power does nothing. >Finally, Antediluvians are just walking apocalypses. And I've already covered what it takes to kill one that doesn't have bs protections against sunlight, fire, and true faith - since crosses wouldn't do anything to it by default anyway. >Thankfully he's not going to go on a murder spree. You know, when I do get around to posting.