[quote=@BangoSkank] That is partially true. But things that stick to a winning script also tend to do better than things that twist in the winds whichever direction they may blow. Game of Thrones and the prequels. The Witcher Seasons 1 & 2 compared to that new one that's flailing. Peter Jackson's LOTR compared to the Rings of Power. Watchmen The Movie compared to Watchmen the sequel tv series. But even so I'm not arguing what is most likely. It is quite likely they will shit the bed and do exactly that. Cast for famous names and agendas. I'm arguing what would produce the best product. The best representation of the thing they're trying to build off of.[/quote] Both Watchmen adaptations were bad but they were bad for different ways. Peter Jackson did LOTR and then he also did The Hobbit. Also the LOTR movies weren't a 1:1 adaptation because a good adaptation uses the source material as a bible not an instruction manual. What do you mean cast for agendas? No one in the Mario movie is cast for an agenda other than the agenda of making even more money than a movie called 'The Super Mario Brothers Movie' is already going to make. [quote]Popularity is not quality.[/quote] Didn't make that statement. But name recognition helps make money. Money good because studios want money. [quote]WoW is an immensely popular game but it is unlikely to make lists of greatest masterpieces of all time. Fortnite is incredibly popular but it's not going to be on a lot of lists of best games of the 2010s/2020s.[/quote] World of Warcraft is absolutely already on the list of greatest games of all time it was a groundbreaking, landmark game. Fortnite will probably have a sizeable entry as well. Regardless of WoW's current state, it is still a popular game whose influence is such that it is still the top of an entire genre of games. It is the standard bearer. [quote]Cumberbatch as The Grinch is a great pick. He's got the weird voice and does great faces and impressions. He can work great as just a voice or in costume or via CGI. Jack Black is a pretty decent Bowser if Bowser is going to have a voice and from what I've heard he's neigh impossible to pick out as Jack Black. Chris Evans was a terrible pick for Buzz Lightyear instead of Tim Allen and the movie suffered for it, among other things.[/quote] The Lightyear movie was fine and it wouldn't have made sense for Tim Allen to do it because it's not the same character. And if you heard Jack Black and Bowser from the movie they would sound similar because all Jack Black is doing, likely with the help of movie magic, is talking in a slightly deeper register. [quote]People in general acknowledge this. It's why often times someone can tell you "we cast X as Y" and you can immediately say "oh my god yes. Fuck he/she was born to play that role" or "whaaaaaaaat? They cast whoooooo? What were they thinking?" It is why you referred to "stunt casting" because some casting is clearly stunt casting.[/quote] There is not a single actor that has been cast that I have thought "Wow they were 100 percent perfect for the role" and in many cases, including the ones you're about to list, the role became them not the other way around. Hugh Jackman was not a great pick for Wolverine at first and neither was Heath Ledger as Joker (seriously, literally everyone thought it was bad) and then the movie came out and people were like "Oh hey wow they did pretty good" because an actor can convince you that they were right for the part. That's why they're actors. Also I've been talking about voice acting. [quote]Examples below, clearly just smack yourself in the face great casting. Consider: Henry Cavil as Superman / Geralt Gal Gadot as Wonderwoman Chadwick Boseman as Black Panther Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool Halle Berry as Storm Jon Bernthal as The Punisher Hugh Jackman as Wolverine Patrick Stewart as Professor X Robert Downey Jr. as Ironman (at the time a has been) Chris Evans as Captain America (at the time a relative unknown) Benedict Cumberbatch as Dr. Strange Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn Chris Hemsworth as Thor (at the time an unknown) Chris Pratt as Starlord (at the time "that fat guy from Not The Office") Robin Williams as Genie in Aladdin Heath Ledger as Joker (at the time a teen heart throb) Joaquin Phoenix as Joker I mean fuck, Daniel Day MOTHERFUCKING Lewis as Abraham Lincoln/Butcher Bill Great castings.[/quote] And yet, every single character has been played by other people (and better, in almost every case) and in some cases they are the worst person who has played them. Also you're putting live action and voice acting together here. Also Daniel Day Lewis could play anyone and be perfect for it he's Daniel Day Lewis. [quote]But hey. Daisy Ridley would probably make a good Wonderwoman. People loved her in Star Wars right? Right? Kevin Hart is very popular right now, make him New T'Challa Doja Cat could be the new Storm, maybe she can do a song on the show. Daniel Kaluyaa was great in NOPE have him play Professor X Dune did well right? Let's have Timothee Chalamet play Superman There are objectively and obviously better and worse castings.[/quote] Why couldn't Kevin Hart voice T'Challa. Why couldn't Daisy voice Wonder Woman? Why couldn't any of these people voice those characters? [quote]If Kristin Stewart voices The Joker she's gonna be worse than Willem Dafoe.[/quote] How do you know? She could be good. [quote]In the Legend of Zelda show/movie If Joe Pesci voices Link you know he's worse than Timothee Chalamet If Taylor Swift voices Zelda you know she's better than Viola Davis If Eddie Murphy voices Epona you're probably actually watching Shrek 5[/quote] Timothee Chalamet and Viola Davis in anything would be better than Taylor Swift and Joe Pesci, especially Joe Pesci of these days. [quote] Pharrell Williams doesn't fit musically into Legend of Zelda, neither does Beyoncé, neither does Ozzy Osborne, neither do The Beatles, neither does any song from Guardians of the Galaxy[/quote] And yet, the composer for the Mario movie is literally working with Koji Kondo, the composer of the Mario games (and also the Zelda games) so literally all this chicken little hypotheticals are based on nothing other than Pharell doing some song work on the Despicable Me movies. Not even the Minions movies. If the Mario movie is going to have a licensed song it's going to be in the end credits which is like the most nothing thing ever. There is no reason to think that a Zelda movie or indeed the Mario movie would be like a movie from 2013 especially when the studio is working so closely with the parent company. [quote]Bottom line: Cast people who fit the character. Don't reimagine the character folks already love because you want to cast the Billboard Top 10 and the tabloids Top Sexiest Men and Women of 2022 or for any other similarly stupid ass reasons. [/quote] This doesn't happen.