[quote=@Fabricant451]
Well other than keanu being bad but he always is. 
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I don't think what I said could even be argued against. (Aside from the slow beginning/first hour, I suppose.) There were so many bloodless deaths throughout, that it didn't do the action scenes any favors. John Wick took the 'most punishment' in this movie. But reacted like nothing happened after nearly every fight. The plot *is* much simpler in the first two movies by far. The movie has nice expensive looking shots/cinematography. (Like the dancing scene that has the dancers not act like human beings and keep dancing in the middle of a gun/axe fight.) It's the longest movie. Etc etc. 

Unlike most things, I went into this one expecting to like it. (Especially after I saw some IMDB reviews claiming that 'despite being disappointed with the third one, this one is a return to form'.) 

But this one reminds me much more of the third one. Even tries the same "tension building moment" of making everyone hunt him, after putting a big bounty on his head. But the "highs" are probably better than the 3rd's. (Though I remember very little about the third one.) 

This movie repeats a lot of ideas already done, and from the people I saw checking their phones on several occasions, I know I wasn't the only one in the theater, who thought that the film was dragging.

I know there's this "backlash" of the first John Wick movie. Because everything popular gets some amount of flak, justifiable or not. But the revenge/feeling of catharsis in the first movie has been lost. (IMO) And I didn't *have* to look it up, to know that different writers were apart of the third and fourth one. 

How exactly would you rate the movies? (And how would you defend the boring/made to look stupid in every scene that he's in, villain.)