[quote=Gat]
 nothing, is EVER bad enough that taking ones own life is the best or even a viable course of action to take *. Sure it solves their problem, but it also creats more problems for everyone around them.
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It is clear you have never worked at a nursing home. Its a dumping ground for family members. Grandma gets old, her mind is now gone. She is now in a wheelchair screaming "Help me Help me Help me" and a staff member ask how can I help you. She just looks at you and is confused. You walk away and she starts screaming again. Or, your in a wheelchair and you go the bathroom and you do not even know it. And if you are a family member, and you know your grandma can be like that for years. Sons and daughters and other family members cannot take it -- and they refuse to come back. And when grandma health gets bad, they could take her to the hospital. But since the family members cannot stand looking at her. She ends up in the day room to hang around the fish tank, and the staff at the nursing station just watch her die. We can keep grandma alive a little bit longer, but we drop her in the day room to watch her die. Is that not suicide?