Carth bowed his head then quickly following after Ash. "Ash? Hey at least we have a destination of sorts. Maybe we can ask Shinlo if there is a place up north when the info fits." Hoping to show her the bright side of it. He didn't like seeing Ash so down in the dumps like this. 

Orion nods. "There is some truth to this. But it has to be outside sources and not your own." He supplies.