[quote=Magic Magnum]First off, most of us are not american.We are not affected by stuff like Obama Care, we have general health care that applies to all citizens.Also, society is not a hive mind. We are not consciously going "We want ______ dead. Let's as a society cut them off from help and kill them".Let's leave government and society conspiracy theories to kill people off separate please? They do not relate to suicide or depression.I'm sorry that whatever you experience has caused you to look at all of society under such a light. But that is not how society functions, and treating society/the people in it as if they do isn't accurate and only slows down the rate we can deal with issues like depression and suicide because we are burning efforts fighting something that does not exist.
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Government can push people into suicide or away from suicide. Right now, your talking how to prevent suicide and it only becomes prevented by acts of a government. The reason that America has a higher rated of suicide, is because of the easy access of firearms. My argument is not about the front end of gaining a firearm to end into suicide. My argument is what what we do in America at the back end. 

Let us do a role play here. You have a firearm, and you live in an apartment or you wish to die in an area that people have the right to be their. Now let us say you plan to take your life in an apartment. Now let us say you call someone to ask the police to come over to give you help. Now some will say great, the system worked. The person called someone to send the police to help this person from taking their life. The person will get help, and were all happy.

In America, the police see you with a firearm in an apartment. They cannot arrest you because you were thinking of suicide. They will arrest you, because you were thinking of discharging the firearm that could have gone into the wall and hurting someone on the other side of the wall. The person could go to prison, but, more or less they will accept a deal that you become a convicted felon. As a felon, he will lose his right to a firearm. In some states, lose the right to vote. And as a felon, lifetime wages are cut by thousands of dollars. In America, if you ask for help right at the time you are thinking of killing yourself. You find out that help is punishment.

Now, if that person has a mental illness, and suicide was a bye product. It is going to be high that the next time, they will not call for help as they understand help as punishment. Most people that do take their life, they have already in the past asked for help in their attempted suicide. So, do not tell me government is not a player in suicide.