[quote=Kadaeux] Yes there really is a difference.A suicide is a person who terminates their own existence without justifiable reason based on emotional or mental difficulties that they are having at the time.A euthanasia is a person who is conscious that their mental state is either degrading to a point where ANIMALS have more conscious thought and control of their body, or the is so great that it isn't like torture, but is literal torture, to continue living. It's not about how long. It's about reasons.[/quote] It is a play with words. If I take a firearm and shot myself in my car in some parking lot (car park) people will say that is suicide and was not rational. When I more to Washington state, one of a few states you can die early: the voters do not like the words assisted suicide. Nope, it polls better if you use a different word to do the same identical policy. It is politics when you just change the words around to change the public poles. [quote]Yes actually it IS criminal neglect that they died. If your nursing home or prison maintained such a of standards that a common illness resulted in the death of someone under your care that is Criminal Neglect and is illegal at least here in Australia.Anyone who doesn't seek medical treatment if the flu becomes that life threatening is going to die and I have no compunction to save them. But then again, I don't live in America and its idiotically draconian system that is on par with most because "Health Care" is "too Communist" to have.A rational reason for your death if an 8yo with the flu gives it to you and you die? [/quote] There has been a number of political scientist that have debated for decades about why type of government is more likely to happen in America if and when the government collapse. No, it is not going to be communism, it is going to be fascism. America has been for a long time, been a center right country and were moving more to the right all the time. The more stress America has, it moves more to the right. Hold on when Climate Change is accepted by the right. They will be looking at Canada and say, you have breading room and it is much cooler above 48 degrees north. Think I am joking, just a few years ago a military report came out talking about America with an invasion plan to take Canada in the event that the United Kingdom was invaded by Germany. In America still supports "Social Darwinism" my friend. The good point is health care in the past. If you are poor, if you are old, if have no needed importance, we find out we do not care if you life or die. Right now in the state of Georgia, the governor wants to get ride of a federal law that says a hospital must provide you will medical care until your well enough to be discharged. Reason being, there have been a number of hospitals that have closed because they are taking care of the poor in their neighborhood. True, they could get healthcare, but, it is a southern state that does not want universal healthcare. Let us put it this way. If the state of Georgia gets what it wants. And your a person that does not have insurance, they can just tell you after you tell them your going to take your life go away. Then you cross the street and take a firearm and shoot yourself. It would be no crime done by the hospital. But, if you read my last comment above, and you call the police after the hospital talked to you. You go to prison.