[quote=@Birdboy] Also straight from the description of Gangrels: "After the Embrace, the sire disappears into the night, leaving the new Gangrel on his own. The Gangrel believe that it is better to save the effort of training a childe until after he has proven that he can survive. Thus, the sire completely abandons his new creation in the early nights, leaving him alone to face the struggle of survival. " It's a huge part of Gangrel society. They don't do sires, the first gangrel to find you will more or less be your 'sire'. But it's important to their culture that you make it through a year (it says 'through your first winter') before they even consider a member of the clan. "A new Gangrel must survive at least one winter before he is worthy of teaching. "How many winters?" is often the first question a Gangrel asks upon first meeting another in the wilderness. A new Gangrel rarely has the correct answer and thus reveals himself. Tradition has it that any pup so encountered becomes a responsibility. " I am sorry if I am being obtuse. I can try making a different character if you want. I did edit it to remove the hospital though! [/quote] Sure.