[quote=@Dyelli Beybi][@Tesserach] From the Co-OP discussion the 'cash-for-tots' stuff feels like its from a more cynical world rather than a mythic heroic fantasy we're leaning into. If there's an understanding both ICly and OOCly that going to serve with the Orders leads to a better life and the payment to the family is to recompense them for the lost labour then we're okay with it. We are breaking with the modern George R R Martin tradition of a crapsack fantasy world and going back to the Old Master! [/quote] For what it's worth Leofric is objectively both materially and socially advanced for having joined the Holy Orders. I'd say under normal circumstances, a better life is almost certainly the idealized intent of both parties but obviously the civil war in Jugkrai isn't exactly situation normal, being as it is a frozen land having spent the last 50 years fallen under the shadow of literal evil... and there's a civil war on. Leofric's character is something of a dialogue with Tolkien's conception of good vs evil.