[quote=@Vec] [@Cmmelody] I understand. So what we have here is NOT a reluctant savior deity who teaches harsh survival lessons out of genuine compassion. What you've described is fundamentally a chaotic, villainous god of beautiful ruin, an entity that finds societal collapse entertaining, views desperate mortals as participants in a spectacle, and enables chaos because the struggle itself is aesthetically pleasing to them. Yzechr, to me, seem to be a god of desperate chaos and accelerationism. Yet they don't just save the desperate, they radicalize them. They give weapons to people in crisis and then watch, detached and amused, as those people burn down the systems that failed them. If civilization collapses in the process, Yzechr views that as proof it was never worth preserving. This god doesn't corrupt people out of necessity; they enable mortals to corrupt themselves and find the resulting carnage aesthetically interesting. The "survival" framing is a justification, not the genuine motivation. The real motivation is that Yzechr finds the struggle, the violence, the moral compromises, the descent into darkness, more interesting than peace or prosperity. That's not a savior you have here but antagonist villain. I am not averse to villainous gods, not at all. I love the concept, and in general there would not be any stakes if there weren't any villains for the 'good guys' to go against. What I need from you, however, is for you to commit to this role. If you commit to this, I am willing to give you the Chaos domain instead of Corruption, as 'Corruption' implies active degradation, but you've described Yzechr as indifferent to whether mortals become corrupt. They just give tools and watch, which is really not not corruption at its core...that's just indifferent enablement, sadistic detachment (a god who finds apocalypse entertaining is not trying to save people but enabling destruction because they enjoy watching it unfold) or simply Chaos. As for the Perception domain, I still am not convinced it fits his thematic narrative you've described so far. What do you think about the domain of Desperation or Survival instead? His followers can indeed cry out to him in desperation during their most dire moments, struggling for survival, and he will answer because that is what he does. What do you think? [/quote] I'm not against it, I don't think this is a god in the 'righteous side' in the first place. I choose 'perception' or 'deception' because their main role is to protect and conceal evil. And I think I forgot to add that he does not care if the boy kills people or not because he know sooner or later that boy will ask for help again. People in desperate situation are rarely able to climb out of that state the righteous way. Beside, if the boy feel safe he will let his guard down even more when the next time comes. Think of it like the devil temptation. Well, I think it's a very good comparison actually. You might think that it is not the savior behavior but in the end many life got save. And if you ask those outlaws most of them genuinely respected and grateful for their god, Yzechr is the only thing between them and the chopping block after all. Sometimes people are just born into evil circumstance and will never be able to step into the 'good' society. I don't think the end of civilization = the end of the world. This is a guy who have an army of murderers, vigilantes, terrorists, and many more as their followers. If they are constantly feeling guilty toward anything those guys do, they wouldn't last a day in this position. And life is the most beautiful when you live it to the fullest, no? That's why they can laugh and enjoy anything their followers and would be followers do, no matter how destructive those guys became. Again Yzechr is the recruiter and the protector of evil, or more specifically the protector of the evil path. They are not the savior of everyone, they are the savior of the scums, the wickeds, and the unfortunates, for a reason. Everyone else just happen to have the chance to be 'the unfortunates'. And if the collapse of civilization really happen, Yzechr will also saves anyone who asked to be save. For those who don't? What is there to be remorseful? They have already made the choice. As for the building and the social order? Heh, it's not like this guy care in the first place. (sorry if this is hard to make sense of, I didn't base this character on any existing god or media concept so it's kinda hard to explain and warp your head around....) Edit: How about the god of evil and deception? The one who protect all evil paths?