I understand the concept, but it's about both. People are trying to seperate it but that prevents a lot too. If it's "just casual" then maybe people are being lazy. I don't trust lazy comfortable people. Always the quickest to ignore concerns. You get tired when you make excuses. I never get tired now. I'm done with that. it's a state of mind. Let's say someone that does really good roleplay is on Second Life. At the same time shorter posts can express shorter and more personal actions (more about "us" then "characters"). If you had massive arguments with the person then shorter posts can work back up to something bigger. But if people are being lazy shits are going "Wah wah, boo hoo. I don't want to try." then that's not good enough. Do you really want to be a lazy shit making excuses? Training takes time. Which also means addressing flaws more. "But boo hoo, desperation for roleplay." [b]TOUGH![/b] Perhaps one reason for "casual roleplay" is because why even bother trying if people are quick to ignore concerns due to desperation for fun? People will admit it makes them weak. Those that can admit it at least. Those that don't are either that brave (rare) or that much of a coward (more common). If people are that craven then I want to know sooner. Not later. I test people quicker myself. ASAP. Right away. How honest are you? Are you a open book? Does it seem too good to be true? [b]MAKE[/b] the hard times happen. Intend it. [b]TEST[/b] them. Just have the can do attitude. I can guarantee most people will do lies and secrets. It's about how you deal with that. I can deal with it. Most people don't even try too. Most people have an irrational fear of conflict that holds them back. Which also means missing out on a lot. Could be having a good time here. Even people lying with intent, having massive arguments with me will say it's better to play along. So why resist? I control that. I dictate how the game is played. I don't follow deluded rules made from fear. I run the show. I provide direction. I keep you sane. I keep you moving. I keep you focused on something. It might not be what you want. It might not be what you expect. But it will be something. And in that people have a purpose. I never had a good roleplay when someone never argued with me. They are always cowards. I've always had better roleplay when people address concerns. Many an enemy has become a lover. Ask Sun Tzu. One time I did a roleplay that was very special and [b]MEANT[/b] something on a personal level. I actually intend to do it again (except I'll be doing it back this time). Old friend of mine. We do short posts at times. Because actions mean things. That's part of the appeal of casual roleplay. Except you can also do bigger posts as well. They did the same thing with their RL partner. Some things are that intimate. At that point it's not "just roleplay". That's getting very personal. Why have one when you can have both? And more even. The problem is people try to seperate it. Sod that. I'm going straight into IM boxes and talking shit out. I also remember doing shorter posts with somoene. To teach them things. In this case that it's not as simple as fight or flight. You can teach people with shorter posts. So that's a factor too. I challenge everyone. And I'm reading that comment above me. They get it. Even if they're struggling when being lazy. Reminds me of my old friend actually. Question. Challenge. Test. Do it big. Do it small. And whatever you do don't let yourself get coddled. Wherever you like it or not I'm going to push you to do better.